12 Most Frustrating Things About Klout

12 Most Frustrating Things About Klout

If you just happen to be crawling out from under a rock, Klout is an influence measurement and scoring system that has been gaining some clout lately.

Some people love it, some people hate it and some people just love to hate it.

Personally, I’m of two minds about Klout. I think the effort to quantify and qualify online influence is an interesting one, yet I am sympathetic to some of the criticisms of Klout’s approach.

But I pay attention to Klout and I’ve tried over the past couple of years to incorporate it into my social routines. This has led to much gnashing of teeth and rending of clothing. But I keep coming back to it.

Here are the 12 things I find most frustrating about using Klout:

1. Love it or hate it, you can’t afford to ignore it

This is the biggest frustration about Klout. I like the idea of measuring influence, but I don’t like the way it’s been executed by Klout. Problem is, no matter where I turn, someone else is relying on Klout as a shortcut to assess online influence and action. Despite ample competition on all flanks, Klout can’t be ignored because of the strength of its brand. It’s just frustrating that Klout can’t seem to deliver what it’s brand promises. Ugh.

2. Klout measures something, but it isn’t influence

By tracking your social media activity, Klout purports to be the “standard for influence.” To start with, Klout only measures online activity, so there are lots of influential people online and off who don’t score well on Klout. If that counterfactual is not enough, there’s the whole question of the Klout’s proprietary algorithm: what is measured and how is it weighted? I’ll grant that Klout is measuring something and that something has meaning, but let’s stop referring to it generically as “influence.” Puh-lease.

3. My Klout score falls twice as often as it rises

Rather than gradually growing, which is my actual online trajectory, my Klout score lurches upward then gradually falls back for several days in a row. When I recently counted over a 30 day period, my score declined on 20 of those days, though it rose overall for that period. This just seems stupid and frustrating to me: why give your users the daily impression that they are failing at their social media engagement activities when, in fact, they are succeeding? Argh.

4. Klout thinks I’m influential about kilts, but I’m not

The list of things Klout thinks I’m influential about makes absolutely no sense. Once, I tweeted:

Just saw a guy in a kilt wearing a t-shirt that said: “Think outside the boxers.” #efmf #DadsTalking

Some people retweeted it. Then I never tweeted about kilts again. Yet, according to Klout, “kilts” was now a topic in which I was influential.

How hard is it to discern what people Tweet about? PeerIndex seems to do a good job and so does Twylah — why can’t Klout? Some people even use Klout’s topical ineptitude to mess with other people (See Screwing with Klout). Huh?

5. Searching for people on Klout is hit and miss — literally

People who clearly have Twitter handles and Tweet can’t be found on Klout. Some days, I search by the Twitter handle and the account name and find nothing. Then, I try again another time and the person comes up. Sometimes, when I’m on Klout.com it feels like it’s 2002. How in the world can this be happening in 2012? Makes me want to s-c-r-e-a-m.

6. Klout notifications just confuse me

It used to be that someone gave you a +K and you could thank them. Easy peasy. Then Klout changed its notification interface. Now, when I click on a notification, I find this strange comment box on the +K and its not clear why it’s there. Am I supposed to comment on my +K? Why and for who? And where is the “submit” button for the comment? Oh, I see now, that’s why the 6 point light gray font appears telling me to “Press Enter to add my comment.” So how am I supposed to thank people for my +Ks now? Wait, I see it, rendered in tiny light gray font in the bottom left of the dialog. What a joy. Not.

7. Klout’s been in “beta” for years

A working site, millions of users, venture capital up the wazoo — what does “beta” mean anymore? Or is this Klout’s way of seeking cover for all these user interface shortcomings. Perhaps Klout becoming the new “standard for beta” too. Oy.

8. Klout’s perks haven’t helped me a bit

Klout once offered two tickets to a premiere screening of a movie my kids would have loved to be the first to see. By the time I applied, it was over-subscribed. For the record, I’m not the least bit interested in another ladies shaver. I’m clearly not in it for the perks. Bah, humbug.

9. Why would I want to invite my friends to Klout by taunting them with my score?

Everywhere you turn on Klout, there is an offer to “invite” your friends from another social network to Klout. Ever click on the link?

@JoeBlow, your Klout Score is 28 (I’m a 57). Check out your @klout profile today!

My score is higher than yours. Come and check out this profile that Klout created without your permission. Real smooth.

At the top of the page, Klout displays “You’ve influenced 00 friends to join Klout.” Yes, I know that, Klout. And it’s unlikely to change until you change some things. Duh.

10. How do I compare to other users?

Klout is quick to compare you to another user based on your scores, but this is not that useful. What I would really be interested in seeing is how my score ranks as a percentile in comparison with ALL others. Back in 2011, Klout’s CEO Joe Fernandez disclosed that the “average Klout Score is close to 20 and a Score of 50+ puts you in the 95th percentile,” but I have been unable to find any more updated information and it doesn’t seem to be something Klout is publicizing on an ongoing basis. Here’s a missed opportunity to add some real value. Darn.

11. Klout iPhone app is a waste of perfectly good storage space

Seriously, does the Klout iPhone app do anything other than display your score on the app icon? Can you give +K? Nope. Can you add an influencer? Nope. Can you create a list? Nope. Then why have an app? Sigh.

12. Give us some way to identify Klout by geography

Wouldn’t it be cool if you could quickly and easily get a list of top Klout scorers by city, province/state, country, etc. We’d all love that. Combine it with improvements to the way topics are determined and you could cross reference by topics. Whoa! Now we’re talking. Wait. What? We have to pay for that? Grrr.

Are there things that drive you nuts about Klout too? Is that a yes I hear? Let me know in the comments below.

Featured image courtesy of Adam Lehman licensed via Creative Commons.


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Jay Palter

http://jaypalter.ca

Jay Palter is a social media strategist and consultant with two decades of professional experience in financial services, software development and marketing. When he's not sitting in front of his computer working, he's sitting in front of his computer doing other stuff. He's a primary parenting dad and active community volunteer. For more information, visit http://palter.ca/.

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24 comments
Mypresidentj
Mypresidentj

Wow. Interesting read. I just started using klout and am worried about the FB posts to friends. I don't want klout posting on my behalf. I've been annoyed by others who have inundated me with repeated klout requests. 3 and 4 a day from each person.

I don't agree with you about the perks. I've been on klout less than 12 hours and got my first perk. Moo cards. That was perfect for me. But that's just my first impression based off my limited use.

As far as the rising and falling of the score and topic of influence, I understand what's going on, I think, and I kind of like it. Seems to me it measures influence in real time. Makes sense.

Thank you for the post. Most objective I've read, even though I don't agree with all of it. Still the most helpful write-up, yet, about Klout.

jaypalter
jaypalter

Thanks for the RTs and mentions @paunikar @El_Marketero @georgedeloache @candice_ma @B2Community

jaypalter
jaypalter

@deanandbek @RebekahRadice Thanks for the shares!

deanandbek
deanandbek

@jaypalter You bet Jay--good read!

kstaxman
kstaxman

@myideagirl Thanks for the RT hope your week is going well

alvaromarketing
alvaromarketing

@pacopublicidad @CelestinoMz no puedo estar más de acuerdo

Simon Hamer
Simon Hamer

I dumped it about two years ago and came back in June. 

Why did I leave last time? My joke and RIP twitter scored higher than my actual account .... really?!

Since rejoining 6 weeks ago, it has managed to lose the Facebook link so I have zero Facebook stats, and there's been no update on twitter figures. This time around, as I rejoined I was influential about Thomas Power ... I deleted that, Thomas deserves better than having me squatting on his brand.

Somehow it has picked up on my LinkedIn influence and presence, but since the rest is inaccurate or faulty, it does not really add any value to my brand or anyone else's by having it rate us highly

The jury is still out, I'm inclined to go back into exile again if things do not quickly improve.

dbvickery
dbvickery like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

So, been meaning to ask you about kilts Jay. ;) Seriously, I do monitor my Klout score...but I do not put a huge stock in it. I also reciprocate with +Ks IF I KNOW YOU.

Klout is currently the only influence score we include in Pulse Analytics because it has such a huge market share/share of voice. Perhaps we add Kred and PeerIndex at some point.

As much as I can disagree with the popularity contest and goofy perks, I do appreciate how @markwschaefer explains influence scoring in his Return on Influence book. It is still a decent measure on how well people can move information through their networks. Are they truly influential...well, "yes" and "no". I would consider the score when reaching out to brand advocates or exercising a brand protection strategy. I would NOT consider the score in hiring decisions - I would focus on the overall body of work of that job candidate.

jaypalter
jaypalter like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@dbvickery I really should become an expert in kilts now, just to mess with Klout ;-)

Thanks for your thoughtful comments, Brian. I cannot find anything in them to disagree with. I love the concept of "moving information through networks". @markwschaefer's book is on my list TO READ.

AndrewGrill
AndrewGrill like.author.displayName 1 Like

Jay - the perfect antidote is Kred.

1. We're real-time (update Kred scores every 1/2 second thank to our full twitter firehose access)

2. We're transparent - see exactly how we score at http://lc.tl/kr AND every one of our 120 million profiles has the score for every interaction, going back 12 months - see how and why your score changes

3. We deal with communities not topics (no more kilts...)

4. We have a dual score - influence AND outreach (= how generous you are)

Why not give us a try?

Your Kred is at http://kred.com/jaypalter and you have a great score!

You have Kred influence of 736, and an outreach of 7 and your top communities are finance and health (and we show your Kred in these communities also).

Any questions, I'm happy to answer them.

Kind Regards,

Andrew Grill

CEO, Kred

@andrewgrill

jaypalter
jaypalter

@AndrewGrill Nice response, Andrew. 

I have, in fact, looked at Kred and there are some things I like about it, to be sure. For one thing, my Kred is incrementally rising, in a way that reflects my actual online world experience. 

I sometimes think that the animated Kred icon thingy can feel a bit too complex, presenting an opposite problem to Klout's oversimplification. 

But I do like the symmetry of these two influence metrics that take the liberty of replacing their Cs with Ks.

Thanks for reaching out.

AndrewGrill
AndrewGrill

@jaypalter Jay, you're going to love the next version of Kred, less complex, easier to understand with a beautiful interface that tells the whole story.

Influencers such as @ginidietrich have been impressed with the preview - see http://lc.tl/gdk

TheJackB
TheJackB like.author.displayName 1 Like

I use it strictly for the perks. I have gotten some that have been fun, but like you I have missed out on others that my kids would have liked.

To a certain extent they are benefiting from first mover advantage. They got into the analytics side relatively early and have been able to capitalize upon that.

Latest blog post: Writers Write Right Part 2

jaypalter
jaypalter

@AmyMccTobin Thanks for sharing. Did I miss any obvious things that bug you about Klout?

AmyMccTobin
AmyMccTobin like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I have given it up completely and I choose to totally ignore its existence. After @Danny Brown exposed their shady practice of opening accounts for your unknowing friends (and minor children) I close my account.I GET the  need for measuring - I LOVE analytics of any kind; I just refuse to use the shoddy ones because they're the only ones we have.PS: I agree with every point you make.

Danny Brown
Danny Brown like.author.displayName 1 Like

@AmyMccTobin There are ways to measure influence that actually measure the right things - context, for example. Klout measures activity - nothing more, despite their best arguments. And when a company uses marketing techniques from 10 years ago and more (opt-out versus opt-in, haranguing friends to connect their friends on Facebook, etc), you know they're less valuable than those trying to do it right...

rosemaryoneill
rosemaryoneill

Thanks for getting that off my chest, lol.  I literally felt relieved reading someone else express all of my frustrations for me.  Oh, and I'm influential about sharks and beer.

Milaspage
Milaspage like.author.displayName 1 Like

Interesting views on this here. I personally believe that Klout is a non social business capitalizing on social for major brands. I explain it a bit in this post "the battle of influence" http://milaspage.com/the-battle-of-influence-customer-service-and-pr-at-the-core-klout-vs-kred/ I think that as people using social we really ought to know better than to judge a person's knowledge or social ability on one measure. Ideally it's simply an indicator of interaction. Now, this being said - it certainly should raise a brow of a person boasts their social media savvy and their Klout score is 20. The system does measure something - I just don't think as individuals online we should let it effect us or our actions. The rule o thumb or social media success and understanding in my opinion is to be genuine- this extends to our actions as well. Forget about your Klout score and just be you - I believe it will be just fine that way.

It's also noteworthy that of you are knowledgable in social media, and you work in the field, the accounts you use may not be your own - so its never as simple as just looking someone up on Klout.

For brands purchasing advertising/marketing through Klout , it stands to reason that by directing their perks at active people online - they will be more likely to get value from their advertising buck - in the end I think thats all Klout is really about - a tool for brands to find people to advertise for them -

:)

Bon Crowder
Bon Crowder

I've been trying to be influential about dismemberment forever, to no avail. It started with a friend saying she'll only give +K to the weirdest topics in someone's list. What's weirder than dismemberment, I thought. 

And yet Klout still won't recognize me. No matter how many times I include it with a hashtag.

(BTW, you can consider dismemberment to be taking an element out of a set - so really dismemberment is a math term. #jussayin)

tracysestili
tracysestili like.author.displayName 1 Like

Great post, it echoes my sentiments exactly. I got frustrated with Klout last year and kind of wrote it off when they wouldn't be transparent on how they calculate the score. I DID however, score a set of MOO Mini cards as a perk once. I felt like I hit the lottery. Ironically, it's still the only perk I am eligible for. But essentially if you are below 50 you will only score crap, if at all. And I too downloaded the iPhone app and I thought it was just me - but glad to know I can delete that now. It has most of my influential topics right, but it says I'm influential about money and cocktails - which I am good at spending money and drinking cocktails but I don't usually post about that, lol. Cheers!

jaypalter
jaypalter

@tracysestili There are worse things to be influential about than money and cocktails, Tracy. Thanks for the input!

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